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- From: devanoff@ivory.trentu.ca
- Subject: Phalaris
- Message-ID: <1994Nov6.163912.25404@blaze.trentu.ca>
- Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 16:39:12 GMT
-
- Anyone got any good refs that include pictures of P. Arundinacea?
- Or, why not take what you've grown and scan it?
-
- Here are some refs I got e-mailed to me recently:
-
- Maten, G. C., et al. 1973. Alkaloids and palatability of P.
- arundinacea grown in diverse environments. Agronomy Journal
- 65:199-201
-
- Woods, D. L., et. al. 1971. Genetic control and seasonal variation
- of some alkaloids in reed canary grass. Can Journal of
- Plant Science 51:323-329 (Can=Canadian, just in case :)
-
- Simons, A. B., et. al. 1971. Relationship of indole alkaloids to
- palatabilit of P. arundinacea. Agronomy Journal 63:915-919
-
- Numerous studies have been conducted on palatability variation to
- grazing sheep and cattle--I don't think 'taste of the smoke of the
- extract (however crude it may be) of P. Arundinacea' would be
- included...HaHaHaaaaa. Ha?
-
- Is it likely to be found in Ontario? If so, let me know before
- it's too late (Winter's coming you know!)
-
- Darryl
- devanoff@trentu.ca
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- Newsgroups: alt.drugs.psychedelics
- Subject: Re: DMT Grasses
- Date: 4 Nov 1995 22:18:56 -0600
-
- In article <deadDHG70o.67L@netcom.com>, ja <dead@netcom.com> wrote:
- >ALL strains of P. Arundinaceae (and tuberosa/aquatica for that mater)
- >that I have read analysis of contain both DMT and 5meodmt.
- >Unfortunately, many have a higher active does of 5meodmt than DMT.
-
- Don't believe the hype.
-
- Simons, A. B., and G. C. Marten. 1971. Relationship of indole alkaloids
- to palatability of Phalaris arundinacea L. Agronomy Journal 63:
- 915-919.
-
- "We screened 411 diverse genotype of reed canarygrass (Phalaris
- arundinacea L.) for palatability to sheep. Indole alkaloid type and
- concentration were estimated in selected plants... Either gramine or
- 5-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine (5-MeO-DMT) + N,N-dimethyltryptamine
- (DMT) were the primary alkaloids in all genotypes."
-
- There's been a lot of research on Phalaris since it's an exotic species
- which is displacing many native grasses and because it causes sheep who
- eat it to stagger and die. I got into it a little this summer, here are
- some other fun reference you might want to follow up on:
-
- Marten, G. C., A. B. Simons, and J. R. Frelich. 1974. Alkaloids of reed
- canarygrass as influenced by nutrient supply. Agronomy Journal
- 66: 363-368.
-
- "Because total alkaloid concentration in this grass is highly heritable,
- plant breeders should be able to develop low-alkaloid cultivars."
-
- Ball, D. M., and C. S. Hoveland. 1978. Alkaloid levels in Phalaris
- aquatica L. as affected by environment. Agronomy Journal 70:
- 977-981.
-
- "Drought stress caused greater alkaloid increases both in field and
- environmental chamber studies than did any other factor."
-
- Mack, J. P. G, D. P. Mulvena, and M. Slaytor. 1988.
- N,N-dimethyltryptamine production in Phalaris aquatica seedlings:
- a mathematical model for its synthesis. Plant Physiology 88:
- 315-320.
-
- I've got some other ones, but those three should get you all thinking.
- One of these days I'll start looking for more info.
-